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November 24

Should I restore the article for Cillit Bang?

Someone changed the entire article into a redirect. Should I restore the article? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cillit_Bang&oldid=1091659175 Félix An (talk) 02:36, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Félix An, the article was removed because of its long-standing inadequate referencing. You should only consider recreating it if you can address that problem. Maproom (talk) 08:16, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

vector skin

is there a way to make ?useskin=vector persist without logging in or installing an addon? 103.62.155.200 (talk) 07:17, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Unfortunately not, as far as I'm aware. Tollens (talk) 08:40, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

If you have an account and are logged in, you can do it by

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Maproom (talk) 09:51, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Adding an article to an RM after it has started

Hi all. Is it possible to add an article to a requested move that is already underway? In particular, I would like to add History of transgender people in Brazil to the RM at Talk:History of transgender people in Finland. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 16:05, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

You can bring the topic up in that discussion, or, if in the future the discussion ends with move, you can move the Brazil page in a similar way and cite that discussion as the precedent. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 17:23, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Carnival of Venice

According to the page, "Carnival of Venice" should be capitalised, but should "Venetian carnival" (the "c" of "carnival") and "Venice carnival" (the "c" of "carnival") also be capitalised? JackkBrown (talk) 16:11, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: "Carnival" should be captialized if it is part of a proper name, such as the Carnival holiday. However, when writing about a traveling carnival, we would use lowercase. GoingBatty (talk) 20:07, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

@GoingBatty: I have not understood correctly and therefore risk making a mistake. Could you kindly correct all the "Carnival" and "Carnevale" that I got wrong on the pages "Carnival in Italy", "Carnival of Venice", "Carnival of Viareggio" and "Carnival of Ivrea"? Thank you very much in advance. JackkBrown (talk) 20:42, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: You are persistently making changes to articles which introduce errors and then expecting other editors such as @GoingBatty and myself to clean up your mess. This is not acceptable.

There is a danger that you will be blocked again if you continue to exhibit this behaviour. You are responsible for your edits, and should now be going back to correct them, or at least WP:UNDO your edits.

Editing Wikipedia is not a competition, and there are no deadlines. Bazza (talk) 21:53, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

@Bazza 7: if you want me to take care of it, please explain better, with examples, when "Carnival" and "Carnevale" should be capitalised and when not (by the way, threatening to block someone is never a nice thing to do). JackkBrown (talk) 22:21, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: If you don't know what you're doing then stop editing. Your constant demands of other editors to fix errors of your own making are unreasonable.

I did not threaten to block you. I warned you that you may end up being blocked as you have been previously if you do not cease your disruptive editing. Bazza (talk) 23:43, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

@Bazza 7: I respect you, but you are very wrong here. It may happen that I sometimes edit incorrectly, ask for advice, follow the advice, and then correct my mistakes, but this I do because I correct many pages a day (among the adjustments I make, I always flawlessly correct all captions, following the MOS:CAPTIONS, the MOS:GEOLINK, the "circa" template, adding punctuation when it's missing, etc., I fix dashes, I correct sentences, I add punctuation when it is missing (and I assure you that I have found pages where punctuation was completely missing (I mean it)), I add the "flatlist" and "plainlist" templates when necessary (more often than you can imagine, for example in many pages of Italian artists), I add the "singular" and "plural" templates, and many other things that I will not list because of their quantity) and I can't spend any more time alone than normal searching for doubts (I remind you that I am not an English national and many things I translate thanks to paid translators (very reliable)). By the way, I am a precise user and if I realise I have made a mistake I correct it, in fact sometimes I check my edits from 10 months ago, and very few do that (maybe, I repeat, maybe, not even you). Having said that, I am sorry that you only notice my mistakes, and thus only the tip of the iceberg. I wish you a good night. JackkBrown (talk) 01:55, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

JackkBrown, this will probably hurt your feelings, but I agree with Bazza 7 and GoingBatty in this matter. Most of the amendments you are aiming to make, while often technically correct, are in the context of Wikipedia fairly trivial (and I speak as a former professional editor who used to be meticulous about such matters when editing printed books and periodicals). No-one is going to look at any single stylistically errant word on Wikipedia and take it to be universally applicable: different publications have different styles; none of them is the 'one true way'.

Moreover, the scale of Wikipedia is such that you are in effect trying to bale out a lifeboat with a teaspoon.

My suggestion is that you stop this seemingly obsessive activity, find something else to do on Wikipedia or elsewhere, and resume in at least several months time after you have further passively studied both the (admittedly complex) MoS and other rules, and how the matters have been handled in articles that have GA and FA status, which ought to be entirely correct barring errors added post-assessment.

I think this would be good both for you and for the many editors who have tried and continue to try to help you. You are of course entirely free to ignore my advice. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.218.227.124 (talk) 05:47, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Terence Trent D'Arby

Reference help requested.

Thanks, Rockforlife (talk) 17:04, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Hello, I am trying to update the artist name to Sananda Maitreya (including the wikipedia URL) everywhere to reflect the current changes in all streaming platforms of the full discography, including album covers: i.e. https://music.apple.com/en/album/introducing-the-hardline-according-to-sananda-maitreya/250551726 Can you please help? Everytime I do a change somebody else randomly reverse it.

There is no consensus to change the name of the album. Most services call it Introducing the Hardline According to Terence Trent D'Arby, which was its name when it became a notable album. For example, AllMusic, which you changed inappropriately in this edit.... discospinster _talk 17:10, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Rotating galleries

Do we have them, or can it be done? I'm thinking it would be more egalitarian in not having to worry whar order a gallery is seen in (so one image never has precedence over another). On the other hand, the rotation wouldn't be printable (is that still a major concern nowadays?) ——Serial 17:07, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

The latter would be for me, as I sometimes print articles to show to others in person when doing so via the internet is not a useful option. My 85-y-o Father, for example, is not online and does not intend to become so. Also, some people still meet socially and pass around books, magazines, and printed-off academic papers and Wikipedia (etc.) articles of interest.

I suggest that it would also need to be possible to freeze the rotation at will, since otherwise one might not be able to view a particular image as long as one would like, without clicking to open it in a separate tab. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.218.227.124 (talk) 05:21, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

@Serial Number 54129: I'm not sure whether you want to vary which image is shown, or only vary where it is shown among other images. In either case, we don't do it in articles. {{Random slideshow}} and {{Transclude files as random slideshow}} are deliberately coded to not work in articles. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:47, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

PrimeHunter, no that's fine, I assumed as much—for the MOS:ACCESS reasons .124 mentions above. 14:15, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Copying references from a different language

Hi, is there an easy way to copy references from a different language version of Wikipedia? ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 17:56, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

All you need to work out is what template is being used, and use the en-Wiki version of that. The only other thing to remember is to use |lang= and add the relevant language name. Mjroots (talk) 18:31, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Well yes, but when copying it over, the parameters (ex. first/last name) are in a different language, so I was wondering if there was an easier way to copy it than manually translating the parts of the template. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 18:47, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

If you are using cs1|2 templates ({{cite book}}, {{cite web}}, etc) there may be an auto-translator available. There are auto-translators for some non-English templates for these languages:

Catalan, Danish, Dutch, Finnish, French, German, Italian, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese, Spanish, Swedish, Turkish

In general, the auto-translator will produce a correctly formatted cs1|2 template from the source that will get subst'd by AnomieBot. The translations are not perfect so it is on you to make sure that the rendered result is correct. If the non-English template is supported by a translator, all you need to do is copy it from the source and paste it in the en.wiki article, preview, fix any errors, and publish.

If there isn't an auto-translator for your particular language, do us the courtesy of translating the template yourself so that others don't have to follow behind you cleaning up your mess.

Supported non-English templates are listed at Module:CS1 translator.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 19:01, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

ok, thanks! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 19:04, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Don't forget to verify that the source supports your translation of the article as well ☺️ Folly Mox (talk) 19:02, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

ofc. Thanks for the help! ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 19:05, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Trappist the monk, thank your for explaining the CS1 translator. Would it make sense to add a version of your answer to Help:Translation? The information seems hard to find if you don't already know about it. TSventon (talk) 00:03, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Go ahead.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 00:09, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Trappist the monk, I have added a section Help:Translation#Translating references. It is closely based on what you wrote but feel free to improve it further. I checked Pages that link to "Module:CS1 translator" and they did not seem to include any other help pages. TSventon (talk) 16:18, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

No longer able to access Newspapers.com Publisher Extra

I've had a subscription to Newspapers.com Publisher Extra for years through Wikipedia. I heavily rely on it for citations. I logged in today and searched but on every single newspaper result I click on, it says I don't have access to Publisher Extra and will need to pay.

How am I supposed to add citations when literally no single newspaper is available to me anymore? I need access restored asap, someone please help. SportsGuy789 (talk) 22:34, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

@SportsGuy789: I had the same problem the other day. I see there's a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Newspapers.com#Newspapers.com access model change and new URL that might be helpful. I'll try it the next time I have the issue. GoingBatty (talk) 22:57, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! I didn't realize it was a systemic issue. I hope it gets resolved quickly. SportsGuy789 (talk) 23:35, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

November 25

What is the most appropriate way to deal with an editor causing WP:Disruptive editing due to his incompetency in English?

An editor is causing WP:Disruptive editing at multiple pages because of his incompetency in English. It is impossible to discuss his edits in the Talk Page because of his incomprehensible English. I do not want to make a personal attack, but I judge that the editor is clearly incompetent in English per WP:Competence is required.

For example, the editor (@Barbardo) wrote (in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Khitan_(circumcision) ): "You removed sources and then added primary sources which one hadith calling for it are deemed weak/daeef and then added a unsourced line about it being mostly found in muslim countries when it varies and is primarily based in africa my suggestion is removing the hadiths and the above line you made in the start of the paragraph. " And he also wrote: "You can't add hadiths as they are primary sources witgoyt secondary sources and you have also copied the first paragraph its fine as it because the hadith that calls for it is weak." I assume that other editors will agree that these sentences are incomprehensible.

What is the right way to deal with incompetency in English?

QamarBurtuqali (talk) 01:55, 25 November 2023 (UTC)QamarBurtuqali

(maybe try to add I think you should try to talk to them in their native language if they listed on their user page through their user talk page (maybe try to add an english translation or vise versa). Sangsangaplaz (talk) 06:07, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

QamarBurtuqali, there is advice on dealing with incompetence in English in WP:Disruptive editing and WP:Competence is required, which you have already linked to.

I think that the sentences you have quoted are reasonably clear, so I have copy edited them below

"You removed sources and then added primary sources of which one hadith calling for it areis deemed weak/daeef and then added aan unsourced line about it being mostly found in muslim countries when it varies and is primarily based in africa my. My suggestion is removing the hadiths and the above line you madeadded inat the start of the paragraph."

"You can't add hadiths as they are primary sources witgoytwithout secondary sources and you have also copied the first paragraph its. It was fine as it was because the hadith that calls for it is weak."

In this case I would suggest talking to the other editor on the article talk page and asking them to explain their points where they are not clear. If you can't agree, there is WP:Dispute resolution. TSventon (talk) 13:33, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Moses Montefiore

I did a Circa - "c" in the Early life section - but its not right - please fix if you have the time and thanks 175.38.42.62 (talk) 04:23, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

 Done in the future, you may want to use the {{circa}} template, using curly braces {} for templates, not square brackets [] for links—for example {{circa|1812}} would produce c. 1812. cheers! Remsense聊 04:26, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Stub articles

Is there a way to generate a list of all articles whose talk pages are in Category:Stub-Class articles (or any of its subcategories) but are not in Category:All stub articles and vice versa? That is, all articles that are rated as stubs on the content assessment scale but do not have a stub template and vice versa. Andumé (talk) 05:24, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

PetScan? Mach61 (talk) 05:43, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

And if Petscan can't do it - I can never remember whether it can handle the categories-on-the-talk-page problem - ask on WP:Request a query, and I or someone else will put something together for you. —Cryptic 06:12, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, since it's not possible to do this via PetScan (or at least I couldn't figure how), I will ask there. Andumé (talk) 06:33, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Despicable Me 4

Would now be a good time to write an article on the upcoming Despicable Me film? Or do I have to wait until more information is confirmed? NiameyH (talk) 13:00, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

You can do it when there are independent reliable sources about it, which is very unusual for an unreleased film. I haven't looked, but it's likely that everything you can find is either ultimately from the producers (and so, not independent), or mere gossip and speciulation. See WP:NYF. ColinFine (talk) 13:50, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Inquiry on MBE deletion

I would like to clarify why did you remove the MBE under Jennie Kim's profile? 121.58.228.67 (talk) 15:31, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

The best place to ask this would be on the talk page of the relevant article(not a "profile"), Talk:Jennie Kim. 331dot (talk) 15:41, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

IP editor. See also Talk:Blackpink#Member's_MBE_POSTNOM_in_lede. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:09, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

How to request protection?

Hi, I want to know how to request a higher level of protection for a Wikipedia page. Ameerthewolf (talk) 18:40, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Please don't alter your signature in that manner. All protection issues are discussed at WP:RFPP. 331dot (talk) 18:50, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. Ameerthewolf (talk) 18:58, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Fancy usernames

I want to know how can I make my username fancy with colors and background colors and radius and whatever? Ameerthewolf (talk) 18:50, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

See WP:CUSTOMSIG, but your customization shouldn't be overly disruptive. 331dot (talk) 18:53, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks Ameerthewolf (talk) 18:58, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Paragraph deleted by MrOllie

MrOllie [Please do not add commentary, your own point of view, or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral po..]

My paragraph is neutral, which part in the umbrella does MrOllie justified his action. Lv9454 (talk) 19:30, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

@Lv9454: Please discuss this with MrOllie. If you cannot reach an understanding, then come back here. -Arch dude (talk) 20:04, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Creating user CSS pages

I would like to know how to create user CSS pages. Ameerthewolf ^{(talk to me} 19:47, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Please, see Help:User style. Ruslik_Zero 20:29, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

User not found

When i log on I see this:

Wikipedia does not have a user page with this exact name. In general, this page should be created and edited by User:Jack Massing. If in doubt, please verify that "Jack Massing" exists.

I exist, and I am attempting to publish an article about myself. Please direct to a solution. I am confused. Jack Massing (talk) 21:53, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

In short, don't. See WP:AUTOBIO. If you are noteworthy enough for a Wikipedia article, someone will make one about you eventually. Bruto (talk) 22:04, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Your user page is at User:Jack Massing (also accessible by clicking on the red link in your signature). Simply go there and edit the page. However, please note that user pages are to describe relavent information about yourself to other editors to help with collaborative editing. It is not some sort of social media where you can announce to the world how important you believe you are. See WP:USER for guidance. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 22:08, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Martin - OK, I was mistaken. I was misinformed about making this article. Thanks for the input. I however never have and never will believe that I am important. Jack Massing (talk) 22:50, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

"Notable" as we define it is not the same as important. We have articles here about mass murderers, about swindlers, about saints and sewers and comic book characters. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:17, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

November 26

Help

I am a Chinese Wikipedia user .I am writing ａ page on Chinese Wikipdia ,I need this image(File:Apollo 11 five ounce obverse.jpeg) , but it is only on the English Wikipedia , so are there some people help me to move this image to wikimedia so that I can use it on Chinese Wikipedia? Hong Kaile (talk) 00:41, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

@Hong Kaile: It's fair use (which is copyright exception legal thing), so you'll need to make sure it falls under Chinese Wikipedia's non-free image use guidelines. From the technical standpoint, you should be able to just download the image then re-upload it at zh.wiki, unless there's a better way. Edward-Woodrow (talk) 00:54, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

@Hong Kaile: There's no need for you to download the image from Wikipedia, as the original is still located at the US Mint. GoingBatty (talk) 00:58, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks！ Hong Kaile (talk) 01:00, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Citing museum labels/wall text

Wondering whether or not museum labels and wall text are useable as citations per Wikipedia guidelines - if so, what is the proper citation template to use? I've searched for discussions about this/examples of proper citations, but I can't find much in the way of explanation. I'm assuming the proper template would be either cite sign, cite document, or cite object, but I'm not sure. Specifically thinking about using a wall label from the National Gallery of Art in DC that contains historical information about an artist's career. There were no citations on the label, but I have the entire text if it's needed for proper citation. Thanks! 19h00s (talk) 01:45, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

19h00s Yes these are appropriate sources. I would treat it like an article on the museum's website. Template:Cite sign should work. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 03:57, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

The one occasion that I've needed to quote something like that I simply used <ref>Tourist interpretation panel adjacent to the doorway</ref>. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 10:07, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

AfD not listed in the 2023 November 17 log.

On 17 Nov I nominated an article for AfD. The discussion was relisted but I can't find it in the November 17 log. Is this OK? Gitz (talk) (contribs) 02:52, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Yes, it's now in the November 24 log. Relisted discussions get removed from the old log. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 02:59, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Good, thanks! Gitz (talk) (contribs) 03:02, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

android app

how do I set preferences and access my user page from android app ? 3MRB1 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 04:36, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

I signed the question in android app..---... 3MRB1 (talk) 04:40, 26 November 2023 (UTC) (4 tildes)

@3MRB1: Hi there! If the answer isn't in mw:Wikimedia Apps/Android FAQ, you can ask at mw:Talk:Wikimedia Apps/Android FAQ. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 06:19, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Busted common.js

I saw the humorous article WP:HTVC and I tried out the vandalism script (just to see if the Wikipedians who made it were JOKING), by way of putting it into my common.js file. But then I couldn't delete the script and save it! The "edit" button became a "vandalize" button, and there was no way to save my changes on the common.js file after. Can one of you admins please delete my common.js file so I can edit again? Ameerthewolf ^{(talk to me} 06:22, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

@Ameerthewolf  Done, for future reference WP:SAFEMODE is helpful in these cases since it allows disabling the your custom javascript. Galobtter (talk) 06:27, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

News feed

2405:3800:868:E675:0:0:0:1 (talk) 09:08, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

See WP:ITN. Folly Mox (talk) 09:10, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

I persuade someone remove the redirect Natrium and make a hidden redirect page to the chemical element Sodium.

Could you make the name Natrium not shown in the summary field in the heading, but sufficient for everyone to type Natrium and get the result: Sodium. Would be a lovely kindness of you to help me. 2001:EE0:4BC4:5DC0:74A5:B633:51B2:265D (talk) 11:39, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

I am not entirely sure what you mean – the page Natrium (redirection disabled for that link) is already a redirect page. If you navigate to Natrium (that link is normal behaviour), you will be immediately redirected to Sodium. Tollens (talk) 11:45, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

@Tollens, no, I mean to hide the box 'Natrium redirects here'. And in meantime, create a page with the redirect to keep the article polish and consistent. 2001:EE0:4BC4:5DC0:74A5:B633:51B2:265D (talk) 11:51, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Let's spot the difference when you read the heading box of the article Potassium even you entered Kalium. 2001:EE0:4BC4:5DC0:74A5:B633:51B2:265D (talk) 11:53, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

The difference is that Kalium has no other meaning, whereas Natrium (disambiguation) is needed as there are other possible uses for the term "Natrium". Hence the hatnote on Sodium. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:55, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Wait. I saw an effective way, you can make the heading box sound like In the Latin name, see Natrium (disambiguation) or something similar to that. 2001:EE0:4BC4:5DC0:74A5:B633:51B2:265D (talk) 12:05, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Users may enter "Natrium" in the search box and be taken directly to Sodium without cliking anything when they wanted something else like Natrium, West Virginia. That's why the top of Sodium has a socalled hatnote:

"Natrium" redirects here. For other uses, see Natrium (disambiguation).

It's working as intended and we don't want to change it. It's not technically possible for our software to only display the hatnote if a user arrived at Sodium via the redirect Natrium. The redirect is created with code in the page Natrium. The hatnote does not create the redirect but merely informs the reader that there is a redirect. If there is no other plausible article they could have been looking for then we don't make a hatnote on the target page for redirects. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:43, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Can I use miscellaneous reference desk for help on origin of unknown stuff (such as a movie clip, but I don’t know where it is from & when was it made)

Is it allowed or not allowed? Should I use the miscellaneous reference desk for help on unknown stuff (such as a clip from a movie, music video or TV show, but I don’t know where it was made, what language is it & when was it released)? —The Industrial Me 1563 (talk) 14:20, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

The Industrial Me 1563 I would ask at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Entertainment. TSventon (talk) 14:24, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Thanks for your help! —The Industrial Me 1563 (talk) 14:26, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Hi

I recently got the permission for reviewing drafts and was wondering how could I notify a user for moving his page from namespace to draftspace? zoglophie^•talk• 14:30, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

WP:DRAFTIFY recommends using {{uw-articletodraft}}. Folly Mox (talk) 15:05, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Sharia

Should the term "sharia" be written in upper or lowercase? JackkBrown (talk) 14:48, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

JackkBrown, I don't have an answer to that question, but since I know you value precision, the two English terms you'll want to be differentiating between are Title Case and sentence case. Or maybe I'm wrong, but those are terms we use around here a lot. Folly Mox (talk) 15:02, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

In what version of English? [1] Bazza (talk) 15:03, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

JackkBrown, I suggest that you ask at Talk:Sharia. Search for "capitalization" in the talk page archive as the question has been raised before. TSventon (talk) 15:11, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

"connecting" two articles about the same topic, but in different languages

There are 2 "foreign" language articles that cover the same topic as an English article that I recently created:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canoe_Meadows_Wildlife_Sanctuary

https://ceb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canoe_Meadows_Wildlife_Sanctuary

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canoe_Meadows_Wildlife_Sanctuary

The German and Cebuano articles link to each other in their sidebars, but my English article doesn't link to them. Is there a proper way of fixing this?

Thank you.

Pdanese (talk) 15:25, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Pdanese, articles on the same subject in different languages are linked through Wikidata. The de and ceb articles were linked to d:Q17490645 in Wikidata so I added the en article as well. TSventon (talk) 15:37, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Pdanese (talk) 15:38, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

• @Pdanese: One way to do this is via the "edit links" button below the "languages" section; this button leads to WikiData and you can then edit content in the "Wikipedia" box on the page that comes up. (edit conflict)

User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 15:41, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Pdanese, for older articles the articles may be linked to different Wikidata items. In that case the items can be merged, see the Wikidata help page: d:Help:Merge. It is important to check that all linked articles are on the same subject before merging the items. TSventon (talk) 15:46, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Request rollback (my edits)

Here: Maslaha. JackkBrown (talk) 15:42, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

JackkBrown using Twinkle or a manual revert you can restore an old version. It is not necessary to ask for a rollback. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 15:50, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

@Sungodtemple: I can't, because the versions overlapped. I would like to be sure that I have not made any mistakes, I don't trust manual revert very much. JackkBrown (talk) 15:54, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

JackkBrown I have restored the version before your edits by clicking on the version before your edits, clicking edit wikitext and then publish changes. TSventon (talk) 16:05, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Write article about a person who has directed short movies and is a filmmaker and journalist?

Can I write an article about a person who has directed almost 3 short movies and is a journalist and moviemaker? Please help find the answer Zahirdaud24 (talk) 18:39, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

So...2 short movies? Do they meet WP:FILMMAKER. Do multiple reliable sources discuss them in depth? --Onorem (talk) 18:42, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

The benchmark is significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. Creating articles without fulfilling this requirement usually leads to the article being deleted very quickly. It's also important to to see the conflict of interest guidelines.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 18:44, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

@Zahirdaud24, per WP:N, what are the 3-5 best sources you can think of that are at the same time reliably published (WP:RS), independent of the person and about the person in some detail? This excludes blogs, wikis, the person's websites, online bookstores etc etc etc. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:49, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

What on earth is a printworthy redirect?

I've seen this before and I fail to understand it. All discussions about it link to this essay, which is nigh-incomprehensible. I've read it several times and I still don't get what exactly is and isn't printworthy. I know what "with possibilities" means, and I get what WP 1.0 is and the idea of that project so I don't need that explained to me, but what are the identifying factors that make a redirect classifiable as printworthy? PARAKANYAA (talk) 22:59, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

@PARAKANYAA: It's about whether it would be worth including in a huge alphabetically organized printed version of the encyclopedia where the equivalent of a redirect from X to Y would be a printed line like "X: See Y". My rough take is that if such a line would be unhelpful (for example because X and Y would be adjacent) or give a wrong impression that "X" is somehow valid then it's unprintworthy. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:39, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

I get that in theory, but are there guidelines on what should and shouldn't be in a print encyclopedia? I'm surprised redirects would be included at all. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:05, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

@PARAKANYAA: I think it's for an imaginary scenario where there is no cost to extra printing and readers shouldn't have to guess which title is used for an article they look for in an encyclopedia with many volumes. I have tried that. It's annoying. The English Wikipedia is far too large to print in any case, and I think offline digital versions are almost dead but I haven't followed the work. I suggest you ignore the whole issue. That's what I have always done when creating and tagging redirects, and I guess nearly everybody does. The printworthy/unprintworthy designation is very rarely chosen directly by an editor but by whether the redirect is tagged with something in Category:Templates for printworthy redirects or Category:Templates for unprintworthy redirects. I leave it for others to decide which redirect tags do what. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:49, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Incorrect literal meaning (maybe)

On this page, the meaning of the term "maṣlaḥa" is "public interest", but, according to this, "is frequently rendered as "public interest", although it is much closer in meaning to well-being, welfare, and social weal.": https://www.jstor.org/stable/3399225. Another question: in English it's spelled "wine-pourer" or "wine pourer"? I cannot find anything on Google. JackkBrown (talk) 23:05, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

@JackkBrown: As I've mentioned before, the best place to discuss maslaha is the article's talk page, Talk:Maslaha. Also, "wine pourer" would not be hyphenated - try Googling "wine pourer". GoingBatty (talk) 01:03, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

November 27

Dear wikipedia Team Please Unblock My Website

Dear wikipedia Team Please Unblock My Website (https://hindi whiz.com/) 2409:40E3:67:AE9A:D439:BE13:403B:7BC1 (talk) 04:39, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

The website was recently added to the global blacklist. To request removal, see meta:Talk:Spam blacklist. GoingBatty (talk) 05:06, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

STD vs STI?

A somewhat problematic editor whom I will not mention by name has gone on a spree of changing mentions of STDs to STIs. Is there actually any preference between one term or the other? Anonymous 04:42, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

I recommend bringing this up at Talk:Sexually transmitted infection. There appears to be at least one thread there regarding whether STI or STD should have priority for naming purposes, though the name of the article may itself be an indicator. Cheers! DonIago (talk) 05:11, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @An anonymous username, not my real name: Hi there! The Wikipedia article on the subject is called "Sexually transmitted infection", and starts with "A sexually transmitted infection (STI), also referred to as a sexually transmitted disease (STD)...", which leads me to believe either one would correct. The most important thing is that the usage in an article is clear. STD is a redirect to Sexually transmitted infection, while STI is a disambiguation page with several other meanings. The next most important thing would be consistency within a given article (but not necessarily across ALL articles). Lastly, I would recommend using whatever the sources say. Hope this helps, and happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 05:12, 27 November 2023 (UTC)