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Errors in the summary of the featured article

Please do not remove this invisible timestamp. See WT:ERRORS and WP:SUBSCRIBE. - Dank (push to talk) 01:24, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Errors in "Did you know ..."

Current DYK

"that Stan Mataele was caught lying about his football experience, made his college team anyway and was all-state?

I know they are trying to avoid other links to maximise the page views but I have no idea what this means. Secretlondon (talk) 17:46, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

I don't know "all-state"; I assume it's an Americanism? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:49, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

I don't either, but I'm the wrong American to ask... theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 19:31, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

The article says he was "All-California", so "all-state" is just a generic state description. It's (U.S.?) sports specific, basically an all-star team selected from players within a state. —Bagumba (talk) 20:08, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Okay but can we go back to linking this stuff so we have a hope of understanding it? Secretlondon (talk) 09:12, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

We don't appear to have a link to "all-state", so we probably need to rephrase it. This is always the issue with sports that have their own vernacular which is not widely known outside the areas where they are mainly played. "... made his college team anyway, followed by the all-star California junior team", possibly? Black Kite (talk) 10:25, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Courtesy ping to DYK nom participants BeanieFan11 and Dahn. —Bagumba (talk) 10:36, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Also, he was named All-California while in junior college, so it's misleading to refer to it as a "college team", which in the US is interpreted as a 4-year college/university. Perhaps something like "...made his junior college team anyway and was all-statevoted one of the top players in the state" —Bagumba (talk) 14:38, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

I'd be find with that or something like: ... that Stan Mataele was caught lying about his football experience but made his junior college team anyway and was voted one of the top players in the state? BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:58, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Works with links to American football and junior college. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:03, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Hmmm, I had a hand in this too :-( How about: "... that Stan Mataele was caught lying about his football experience but made the team anyway?" That should be enough to attract the interest of readers. No need to pile in all sorts of details. RoySmith (talk) 16:11, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

I do think its more interesting that he not only made the team, but became one of the top players in the state. I don't know if links to American football and junior college are necessary, though, as they seem to usually draw away viewers from the DYK topic in question. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:49, 26 November 2023 (UTC) BTW, I'll be away for the rest of the day so you guys will have to work on developing the best wording for the hook. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:54, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

... that Stan Mataele lied about his football experience but still became one of the top players in the state? RoySmith (talk) 17:22, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

that works, but casting my spoiler vote for Viriditas's "... that Stan Mataele faked it until he made it?". theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 17:46, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

This is going live in a couple of hours and nobody's come up with anything better, so I went with my last suggestion. RoySmith (talk) 22:20, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Surely it should be "in his state" rather than "in the state" RoySmith? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:27, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Dunno, maybe, but I think we're into nit-picking territory. If somebody else wants to change it, I won't object. RoySmith (talk) 22:36, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Was he a top player in the state, or a top player among junior college players in his state? JoelleJay (talk) 23:58, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

The latter. But the blurb doesn't say he was one of the top overall players in the state either. Call it creative leeway? —Bagumba (talk) 05:21, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

"One of the top players in the state" implies "overall", especially to people who aren't familiar with the structure of American college football divisions. JoelleJay (talk) 06:52, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

• In the caption of the image, it should read "a hyalospheniid amoeba", not "a hyalospheniidae amoeba". Edward-Woodrow (talk) 23:03, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

  Fixed by Schwede66. —Bagumba (talk) 05:24, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Errors in the summary of the featured list

Friday's FL

(December 1)

Monday's FL

(November 27, today)

Errors in the summary of the featured picture

Notice to administrators: When fixing POTD errors, please update the corresponding regular version (i.e. without "protected" in the page title) in addition to the Main Page version linked below.

Today's POTD

• 27 Nov Aragonite blurb - in last line at "Los Molinillos in Cuenca, Spain" - pls pipe mine location to Province of Cuenca (rather than the city) per article and file page (which btw has potd 3 December?) JennyOz (talk) 23:36, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

•  Done – Schwede66 01:39, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

General discussion

Wikipedia:Main Page history

I like using Wikipedia:Main Page history, but it has not been written for a number of days now, look at Wikipedia:Main Page history/2023 November 20. The bot owner made only few edits, one saying that the bot can't do it in retrospect (which I sort of thought anyway). What can we do? Once I'm hear: could a bot perhaps change earlier renditions which look strange, due to changes in the presentation, compare Wikipedia:Main Page history/2018 November 23 (look at the "Recents") and Wikipedia:Main Page history/2020 November 20? -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:21, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

It can be done manually fairly easily for the current main page, using special:ExpandTemplates with {{:Main Page}} in the input wikitext box, then copy-pasting the output into the relevant history page. I've done that for Wikipedia:Main Page history/2023 November 24, and happy to do it for a few days, until the bot starts running again. It is possible to do it retrospectively by rebuilding a copy of the main page in a sandbox, transcluding older templates (ITN needs to be done manually), but it is a time-consuming task. — Voice of Clam (talk) 08:04, 24 November 2023 (UTC)